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Katbaker
17-12-2012, 08:54 PM
So many of You berate these presenters for exaggerating *the positive aspects if an item and ignoring the negative. Yet all I read is posts exaggerating the negative aspects of the channel and ignoring the good. I find it very hypocritical.*
I have seen some super bargains lately but they are never mentioned on here. But if a product is sold that can be found cheaper elsewhere it is headline news! Also I keep hearing presenters talking about the delivery charge. But again no mention. It's like you only want to complain and are incapable of compliment!*
I am starting to think that some of you are as bad as them! Especially when it comes to twisting the facts. I can't count the times I have watched a show then come on here to see the response, only to find the presenters words have been misquoted, taken out of context or totally exaggerated and sensationalised. All just so someone can start a new exciting thread.*

I know I will be ridiculed for this post as I seem to be one of the only people *who speaks favourably about BID UP. But I would LOVE this forum to be about shopping and bargains not moaning and sensationalism. and I think it's time we give some credit to the people who are doing a very good job.*

Kat xxx

Wirral70
17-12-2012, 09:01 PM
So many of You berate these presenters for exaggerating *the positive aspects if an item and ignoring the negative. Yet all I read is posts exaggerating the negative aspects of the channel and ignoring the good. I find it very hypocritical.*
I have seen some super bargains lately but they are never mentioned on here. But if a product is sold that can be found cheaper elsewhere it is headline news! Also I keep hearing presenters talking about the delivery charge. But again no mention. It's like you only want to complain and are incapable of compliment!*
I am starting to think that some of you are as bad as them! Especially when it comes to twisting the facts. I can't count the times I have watched a show then come on here to see the response, only to find the presenters words have been misquoted, taken out of context or totally exaggerated and sensationalised. All just so someone can start a new exciting thread.*

I know I will be ridiculed for this post as I seem to be one of the only people *who speaks favourably about BID UP. But I would LOVE this forum to be about shopping and bargains not moaning and sensationalism. and I think it's time we give some credit to the people who are doing a very good job.*

Kat xxx

Kat you are more than welcome to your opinion, it's an open forum!

Can you tell us about what bargains you have seen and also tell us when P+P is mentioned other than occasionally when the item is on EasyBuy because I honestly barely ever hear them mention it. Even on EasyBuy they rarely mention the amount, and often claim all you have to pay 'today' is the first installment and that's it. Are you aware that they have recently removed the wording 'per item' from the onscreen P+P charge and at the same time increased the maximum number of multibuys to nine? It is hard to interpret that as anything other than cynical.

I recall you saying James Russell gave a full description of a Triplet Opal but it transpired he didn't. I admit it's fun to highlight the negative points about Bid but there are so many it's hard not to.

I have seen one or two decent prices and posted to that effect (Dr Lewinns and Elizabeth Grant products are just two examples). On the other side of the coin I fail to see how a Tanzanite ring set in gold plate can possibly be worth hundreds of pounds. That is exacerbated when the presenter dosen't once mention the product is indeed gold plated but repeatedly describes it as gold.

I would also draw your attention to the increasing number of 'upheld' ASA complaints against Bid Shopping. I would further draw your attention to a very recent thread I started regarding P+P which if you are fair you will admit is a scandalous claim to make.

I am afraid I couldn't disagree with you more when you say 'they are doing a very good job' which, in my opinion, is way too general a claim to make. Praise is given, particularly to Andy Hodgson, but are you honestly claiming Peter Simon, their highest profile presenter, is doing a very good job? Or, to a lesser extent, James Russell? If you do then I think you must be watching a different channel to the one I see them on, I honestly do.

But you are of course welcome to your opinions and do keep posting, I just disagree with virtually all of them and that's the good thing about having an opinion!

http://forum.shoppingtelly.com/forum/showthread.php?38792-Mike-Mason-Outrageous-Claim

Woosie
17-12-2012, 09:34 PM
Am sure there are bargains to be had on Bid - the Agent Provacateur perfume is cheaper here than a lot of sites but yesterday Caroline was suggesting the Chopard perfume was exclusive and hard to find when it was readily available on Amazon for less with free delivery. (You note they never price check against Amazon?) Andy Hodgson is the only one who mentions P & P . It simply doesn't exist to James Russell or Sally Jaxx/Jacks especially when they are encouraging people to multibuy up to 9 times without making it clear P & P is 'per item' Peter Simon looked disgusted tonight when he had to say the Pampering day was free P & P!

On an aside, caught the last part of his show tonight and he was disgusting for that time of night - the innuendos with Peter Sherlock and Ellise were really bad but the highlight was when he stretched the support pants they didn't ping back to shape and she had to discretely push them into shape. I bet all the people who rushed to buy those will pleased to see just how supporting they really are!

James Russell is now selling some fleece .... he's muted so no doubt I am missing some grand story about his life/wife/where he's worked previously ... that man's been everywhere! But if I have to hear the story about their damned Xmas baubles and the cruise ship one more time .... Argh!

xx

Moet&muffins
17-12-2012, 09:42 PM
Well said Kat, I agree with you. Not all the presenters are whiter
than White but they do bear the brunt of peoples opinions about
'the company'. There ARE bargains to be had. :-)

PJ.
17-12-2012, 09:45 PM
Everyone can have their opinion Kat and no one can say they are wrong but what you have said is factually wrong. I have, and a couple of others mentioned purchases we are happy with and stating the price is good. So to say they are never mentioned is wrong.

In the old days of bid there were over 50% of their products at good prices or goods not available elsewhere. Now you are lucky to get one or two a week. There is nothing wrong with cheap tat. I shop at Poundland and Lydl but selling tat and making out like it is Harrods quality is like crime in a multi story car park. Wrong on so many levels.


PJ


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merryone
17-12-2012, 10:11 PM
So many of You berate these presenters for exaggerating *the positive aspects if an item and ignoring the negative. Yet all I read is posts exaggerating the negative aspects of the channel and ignoring the good. I find it very hypocritical.*
I have seen some super bargains lately but they are never mentioned on here. But if a product is sold that can be found cheaper elsewhere it is headline news! Also I keep hearing presenters talking about the delivery charge. But again no mention. It's like you only want to complain and are incapable of compliment!*
I am starting to think that some of you are as bad as them! Especially when it comes to twisting the facts. I can't count the times I have watched a show then come on here to see the response, only to find the presenters words have been misquoted, taken out of context or totally exaggerated and sensationalised. All just so someone can start a new exciting thread.*



I know I will be ridiculed for this post as I seem to be one of the only people *who speaks favourably about BID UP. But I would LOVE this forum to be about shopping and bargains not moaning and sensationalism. and I think it's time we give some credit to the people who are doing a very good job.*

Kat xxx


So you might Kat, but what we say on here is never going to result in somebody being out of pocket, especially those who can least afford it! Hypocritical? If you say so, doesn't name calling us amount to the same thing? Who knows?

I am often singing the praises of the products, and will give credit where credit is due.

I think we'd ALL love this forum to be about shopping and bargains,but sadly it can't be until these channels start "behaving themselves a bit better"!

Enigma
17-12-2012, 11:13 PM
If this forum was anti-Bid for the sake of it, then I'd agree with you.

But I for one am glad that there is a place that people can access that outlines shoddy selling practices of ANY shopping telly channel when they occur.

How do most shops get more business? Through word of mouth.

I for one would be upset if I bought something from a shopping channel based on reading nothing but positive posts on here, then found out I had been ripped off. If I want nothing but wall-to-wall positive feedback on Bid, Ideal World, QVC or any of the others, then I'll go to their own websites.

Surely the BIG benefit of an independent shopping telly website is that you will get posts about people's bad experiences as well as the good? And even better, in their own words? I for one find that invaluable.

Not to mention the humour shown by shopping telly viewers on here.

I don't understand how when people go on about "wanting free speech" they always mean "but without coming across stuff I don't want to hear".

Paul_s
18-12-2012, 04:18 AM
Each to their own but some folk on here have aired their views to the ASA who of course are the industry body overseeing advertising... and even they agree to the complaints - so it's not just people making it up or doing it for the sake of argument.

Once upon a time Bid were a decent company ~ selling was fun, no bull and there were bargains to be had! Now it's got to the stage of scaremongering, over priced goods, P&P costs where if you multi buy you could in theory have your goods shipped round the world 10 times over and still have change! It's rediculous.

If Bid carry on the way they are then they won't be around for much longer anyway.

Greg
18-12-2012, 04:37 AM
I have to agree with the majority here. In the last couple of years the Bid TV Network has plummeted the depths as to the quality of the products and the selling tactics of the presenters. Scaremongering of the vulnerable and elderly seems rife and hyping up the mediocre tat and the spurious claims by presenters has reached ridiculous levels.

With the extortionate P&P and premium rate phonecall charges, Bid cannot claim to be a discount channel at almost a tenner per item to add before you have even bought anything.

cheesecake
18-12-2012, 06:22 AM
I agree I',m afraid. The only good thing about Bid Tv is Andy Hodgson, he is comedy gold in my opinion and I would watch him over a 'comedy' programme on TV any day :) he is also the only presenter who seems to sell items fairly, mentioning postage and the like.
As Greg said, you are charged 7.99 postage for even a scarf, plus 1.53 per call for your order, making 9.52 before you have bought a thing!!! How can that not be ignored into the price of a so called bargain? Yesterday I watched a sell of 2 memory foam pillows, being interested as my partner suffers badly with his back, and knowing he likes these, I watched to see what price they would go to, with buying a set in mind genuinely. Then I realised that even if they went for 1p, with the 9.52 added charges for calling and delivery, I could get them cheaper locally!
It would be a lovely world Kat if we could only hear the positive, but the complaints on this site are real and damn important, not everyone in the world is the sharpest tool in the shed, and sites like these are invaluable to stop people getting taken advantage of. If you think these complaints are a bit over the top too, you should check out the Morrisons facebook page, where some customers are claiming the company are ripping people off, and are furious to bursting, about a 5p price increase on an item, that is a little unneccesary, but Bid claiming an item is exclusive (when can be found on 3+ other websites) or claiming an item is 1p (but really 9.52) are valid points and in my opinion not at all hypocritical.

Enigma
18-12-2012, 08:22 AM
So many of You berate these presenters for exaggerating *the positive aspects if an item and ignoring the negative. Yet all I read is posts exaggerating the negative aspects of the channel and ignoring the good. I find it very hypocritical.*
I have seen some super bargains lately but they are never mentioned on here. But if a product is sold that can be found cheaper elsewhere it is headline news! Also I keep hearing presenters talking about the delivery charge. But again no mention. It's like you only want to complain and are incapable of compliment!*
I am starting to think that some of you are as bad as them! Especially when it comes to twisting the facts. I can't count the times I have watched a show then come on here to see the response, only to find the presenters words have been misquoted, taken out of context or totally exaggerated and sensationalised. All just so someone can start a new exciting thread.*

I know I will be ridiculed for this post as I seem to be one of the only people *who speaks favourably about BID UP. But I would LOVE this forum to be about shopping and bargains not moaning and sensationalism. and I think it's time we give some credit to the people who are doing a very good job.*

Kat xxx

Kat: do you work for Bid? That's a very impassioned defence.

newtobid
18-12-2012, 08:23 AM
i have posted a few positive threads and more negative ones

why because that is MY opinion, i have praised andy hodgson many times on here because he often refers to the "all in" price something which simon et al would never dream of doing.

Hillary
18-12-2012, 09:05 AM
If I'm honest and fair,there's a lot in what you say Kat.I've not bought from these channels for months and months. I only joined this forum recently and came on to see if others were like me and had noticed that the quality of goods, in the main, had fallen whilst the standard of presenting had plummeted to new depths. There's very little on TV these days for an old fossil in their 60's like me and in the evenings or when I'm getting tea ready in the kitchen, I tend to flick over to the 'shoppers' but I get an increasing uneasy feeling about watching them these days. The presenters tell enormous whoppers just to make a sale of goods, sometimes not worth the cost of the postage.
We are all different. Maybe some people who post on here live in remote areas where a shopping trip to a large town takes a lot of planning. Or maybe living at the top of a high rise with the lifts out more than working and telly shopping is an easier option. The disabled and those suffering from such things as agoraphobia often find home shopping an easier option and perhaps they are getting fed up with rip offs and come on here to vent their feelings.
Its a free country, and this is a free and open forum. Live and let live eh? Merry Christmas to you

Mommabear
18-12-2012, 10:50 AM
I've bought loads of stuff off Bid over the years and don't remember moaning about the postage charge then. I think it has always been high but the items were bargains then and good quality so the postage mustn't have seemed too outlandish in the grand scheme of things. If you watch on youtube of shows years ago, they sold some cracking jewellery. They had big brand kitchen items, not their own dodgy 'your kitchen' range.

They have changed drastically over the years. The presenters were fun, they didn't have to hard sell back then. The products would sell themselves, easily. You did sometimes have to race to the phones to get the bargain.

I think they deserve all the flak they get on here tbh, with the exception of Andy H, as has been said.

Katbaker
18-12-2012, 12:19 PM
As my mummy would say 'A penny has two sides" i agree with you all that BID UP has been misleading in certain areas. i have written a stern letter to the managers at BID UP outlining my disapproval as a regular buyer and also contacted some of the presenters through face book too. i get the impression they are very embarrassed by the ASA rulings and are working to stop it from happening again. I also get the impression that the blame should sit just on the shoulder of the presenter. but they get the blame from us because they are the face. i think there are more strings behind the scenes than we realize.

On the other hand there are also so very many comments on here that are inaccurate or misleading or misquoted. i watch BID UP all the time and have now started recording it as i am frustrated reading on here things that are clearly exaggerated or conveniently selected bits of what the presenters say. its hypocritical but in a way quite ironic. you exaggerate the facts in order to berate them for exaggerating the facts lol.

I have bought in the last 10 days some super bargains
A moisonite ring .75 ct in 9k gold - 99.99!
Ladies Catier perfum for 14.99!!
A lovely leather weekend bag for 17.991
The who DVD's for my hubby - 1!!

Kat xxx

newtobid
18-12-2012, 02:44 PM
i presume you do not pay postage or phone call costs then kat?

if you are going to defend them which is fine get your facts correct

Blue star
18-12-2012, 02:56 PM
im glad you have found some bargains that you like but dont forget the 38.08 for the pleasure of ordering them and getting them delivered to your home

Paul_s
18-12-2012, 03:03 PM
i presume you do not pay postage or phone call costs then kat?

if you are going to defend them which is fine get your facts correct

was just going to mention P&P costs!

Kat;

a) In the words of St. Peter and James 'Love Boat Jewellery Avalanche Cruiseship' Russell - get the ring valued at your local jeweller.
b) The Who DVD's can be bought cheaper over at Amazon if you factor in Bid's P&P/call costs.

You're right about some things Kat, there are things going on behind the scenes. The presenters aren't all to blame but if they had morals they'd stand upto those who are telling them to sell like they are and quit. Maybe they like duping the general public? Who knows.

Blue star
18-12-2012, 03:28 PM
like i have posted in the past about these certain presenters ie james russell , sally jacks, mike mason , nicola george,peter simon and caroline they are just full of it they have no morales what so ever as long as they get the sale !!! if they are as talented as they make out why are they being front men and women for such a company that dosent seem to mind if they lie to get a sale and fabricate history for items unheard of i hope they are on big wages as there reputations will never recover they will always be remenbered for being on bid tv so presenters beware the public has long memorys

cheesecake
18-12-2012, 03:36 PM
Kat, you can't just say "Ive had some bargains, poor poor them"
Television is a powerful medium and these presenters have to stand by and take the blame for the crap they peddle. You cannot say you got The Who dvd's for 1, they cost you 1 AND 7.99 postage AND 1.53 for the call. You also can't say that its the presenters' strings being pulled by backstage, these are not kids or vulnerable adults, they know damn well what they are saying. You also can't do this god-awful thing that loads of people on these forums do which is the old "I've had no problems so they can't be all bad", is it not good enough to hear of people being ripped off, let down etc, do you have to physically experience it yourself before you will stop singing praises?
Totally agree with the quality issues, back when I started watching, at least 7 years ago, the quality of the products was amazing, real bargains to be had, sometimes Andy would just stand there and joke about with Jenoir, as the products were good enough to fly off the shleves with no selling! Viners pan sets, GOOD bedding, great jewellery, not this Del-Boy tat they are trying to flog now. If they sold some of their stock in a fair manner, "cheapy fleece for a fiver" and mentioned the damn postage and call costs, then maybe people wouldnt bitch so much, but "Harrods quality, unicorn hair, gold, fleece, warmer than the sun, for a fiver" just isnt on.

fulhamphil
18-12-2012, 03:44 PM
The vast majority of the stuff they peddle is tat and genuine bargains, once you have factored in the extortionate P&P and call cost, are rarer than hen's teeth. It's a cowboy operation and the selling practices are quite appalling. There is no positive side to Bid from what I have seen.

merryone
18-12-2012, 04:43 PM
As my mummy would say 'A penny has two sides" i agree with you all that BID UP has been misleading in certain areas. i have written a stern letter to the managers at BID UP outlining my disapproval as a regular buyer and also contacted some of the presenters through face book too. i get the impression they are very embarrassed by the ASA rulings and are working to stop it from happening again. I also get the impression that the blame should sit just on the shoulder of the presenter. but they get the blame from us because they are the face. i think there are more strings behind the scenes than we realize.

On the other hand there are also so very many comments on here that are inaccurate or misleading or misquoted. i watch BID UP all the time and have now started recording it as i am frustrated reading on here things that are clearly exaggerated or conveniently selected bits of what the presenters say. its hypocritical but in a way quite ironic. you exaggerate the facts in order to berate them for exaggerating the facts lol.
O
I have bought in the last 10 days some super bargains
A moisonite ring .75 ct in 9k gold - 99.99!
Ladies Catier perfum for 14.99!!


A lovely leather weekend bag for 17.991
The who DVD's for my hubby - 1!!



Kat xxx


I think we'll have to disagree on what we'd consider to be a bargain a hundred. Pounds on a ring will never be. Bargain in my book! Glad you've got money to spend

Wirral70
18-12-2012, 05:00 PM
I think we'll have to disagree on what we'd consider to be a bargain a hundred. Pounds on a ring will never be. Bargain in my book! Glad you've got money to spend

I must actually give James Russell some credit. When he was selling Moissanite last night he did actually give a candid and thorough description of the stones and that they are in fact man made, he hasn't always been so frank when selling it but he was this time.

Paul_s
18-12-2012, 06:24 PM
gold, fleece.

THE Golden Fleece!?

Tommy & Kate Boutique - inspired by Jason and the Argonauts :smirk: (Peter Simon could do a eulogy on the whole film!)

:giggle:

Enigma
18-12-2012, 09:43 PM
I've just re-read my first post in this thread, and have noticed I wrote "I for one..." about 20 trillion times.

God, I sound pompous :giggle:

I'm sorry. It won't happen again.

I reckon Katbaker is really "Our Bet" and I claim my 5.00 + 7.99 P+P :happy:

Katbaker
19-12-2012, 11:34 AM
You ask why I defend BID UP? Well I have MS and am homebound. I suffered a great loss years ago and took it very badly. It was a dark time for me. Watching BID UP provided me with some company. I contacted some of my favourite presenters and they where very kind and generous with their time. One even came to visit me.
So yes. I feel I owe them my efforts to ensure the abuse against them is at least fair. I don’t believe they are whiter than white. But I have mentioned this already. But I do know that much of what is written on here is blown out of proportion and sensationalised.
If there was more ACTUAL BID UP customers and viewers on here I am sure they would agree. You seem to think that anybody that buys from them is an idiot. I disagree. There are great deals on BID UP even with the delivery charges. But I get the impression nobody on here cares about that. Its got to the point of a mob culture on here where nobody is allowed to say anything positive as they will be berated for it. It reminds me of a Derren Brown show I watched called ‘the audience’ which showed how a group anonymous people formed a hateful mob and became hell bent on causing hurt and pain. Its not everyone on here. But it is a lot. Maybe when you are in the midst of it you don’t see how ugly it is. But from the outside you get a very different view.

I try to imagine what type of person some of you are. A person who will hide behind an alias and ruthlessly mock another human being. Defending your ugly actions by convincing yourselves they are ‘thick skinned’ because they are on TV. I speak to these people and they are anything but. In fact they are extremely vulnerable and sensitive. They are after all ‘people’ their choice of career doesn’t make them immune to criticism. In fact. In 62 years I am yet to meet anyone who is. I doubt you are! But then I have found the people who least like criticism are often the most critical of others.

This will be the last time I come on here for a while. This place is too full of hate and anger for me. I think anybody who dedicates their lives to watching a channel they don’t like just to moan about it should maybe stop and take a look at the value of life. Of course you are pretty sad and very lonely. That goes without saying. And I imagine the reason you are all so abusive now is because it is Christmas and I expect you will be spending it alone. But that is no reason to take it out on someone else.

I appreciate we have very different views and are very different people. But I love this channel and I am not nasty enough to be around such a mob.

Please try and have a merry Christmas

God bless you all

Kat xxx

cheesecake
19-12-2012, 12:26 PM
You know Kat, no-one meant to upset you, and I see you have a personal reason for liking these presenters and wanting to defend their 'honour', and that is all lovely and very nice of you, genuinely. I too am housebound, have been for 20+ years, and accept that kindness shown in these circumstances really is appreciated. sadly though, these people who were and are, very kind to you, and helping you to feel better, are also the people who are responsible for some people, maybe in a similar situation to us, being very upset and let down.
You are 62, a lady of the world, and maybe you expect people should be able to take what the presenters say with a touch of salt, and read between the lines a bit, but a lot of people are not so worldy-wise, or sharp, and being on the television, an incredibly powerful medium, puts the presenters in a position of trust, yet they are not there when these people who trusted them, are let down, like they were for you in your bad time. I can assure you, we all don't watch to pull these channels apart, and in the 'honey monster' comment, no harm or nastiness was meant at all, there are places and forums on the internet where you will hear genuinely sickening remarks about people, from trolls who DO mean harm. I am very very glad you like the bargains you get, and let no-one take that away from you, or Bid Tv, and I genuinely hope you keep getting them, and enjoying the channel. Please remember though, for you Bid Tv is a lovely experience, but I always will remember one New Year, a post from an elderly lady on the Ideal World forum here, whose hole Christmas had been ruined by the channel guaranteeing Christmas delivery; she had saved and bought ALL of her gifts from them and had to face the fact that on Xmas Eve night, nothing had arrived and she was in tears and had to feel like crap and tell her family she had nothing for them, of course they wouldnt mind, but SHE felt so so so bad and it ruined what should have been a special time of year for her. Enjoy your Bid Tv, I sure will with Andy Hodgson and Mikey Mason who genuinely make me laugh more than a comedy show, but please dont leave with the impression we are all nasty trolls being awful for no reason, Have a wonderful Xmas my lovely, peace and happiness :) XX

fulhamphil
19-12-2012, 12:50 PM
Blimey Kat, don't hold back will you! Not sure if slagging off people on here is particularly advancing your argument. People are just expressing their opinions on Bid - surely that is what the forum is for. As it seems to wind you up so much, perhaps it is best you take a break from here - or you could try investing in a Worry Angel :wave:

Greg
19-12-2012, 02:39 PM
Kat, it is probably best that you leave. Have a nice Christmas :wave:

newtobid
19-12-2012, 02:55 PM
kat

your arguments are worthless when you start slagging people with a different view to your views

Bexi
19-12-2012, 04:59 PM
What a load of passive aggressive rubbish :cheeky:

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 05:02 PM
In my experience the worst thing you can do with a troll is give it oxygen, and the penny has finally dropped that a troll is most definitely in our midst.

Once ignored they soon move onto their next victim :wave:

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 07:18 PM
Totally get your point Wirral but just don't consuder any of us "victims" this err "katbaker", (very odd "she" didn't just use a nickname or initial for a surname when in reality they could be anyone), I just thought s/he needed to be shown up lol.

Speaking of this person, initially I thought that "she" was likley to be related to a presenter of owner of Bid, especially given the timings of her comments.
Having read the latest from this person in this thread I seriously wonder, (& of course I'm not accusing or alledging here, just wondering), if she is actually one of the presenters?? All that stuff about having MS & writing to the presenters & they visited her, REALLY??! They also seemed to pointout the cheapest items sold & even they weren't great or mainstream desirable in my opinion, that had been on in in recent times in an instant saying they'd bought them. Then comes the utterly disgusting assumptions about us all followed by "god bless" & a line of kisses. Now peeps...there's 1 of their presenters that springs to mind who can story tell like that...Just wondering.....I hope "she's" consulting with her worry angels with regard to "her" words on here.

I found it all quite unbelievable.

Literally :giggle:

Enigma
19-12-2012, 09:43 PM
In my experience the worst thing you can do with a troll is give it oxygen, and the penny has finally dropped that a troll is most definitely in our midst.

Once ignored they soon move onto their next victim :wave:

But I'm still here? :confused:

merryone
19-12-2012, 09:53 PM
Well I give Kat Baker the benefit of the doubt and say she's a geniune viewer, and what I might say will probably offend her, though I honestly don't mean to. Housebound, disabled, watches the channels for company? Many of the vulnerabilities that these presentations play upon, and guess what? She spends an awful lot of money with them! Ok, it may be none of my business, maybe Kat you're not getting yourself into debt, (I hope not) but surely you can see how easily it could be done!

If you enjoy watching and buying fine. Shame you feel you must leave, beacause of the "hate" on here. Why not browse the rest of this wonderful forum, it's not all about shopping, you mind find something you like!

actually scrap that, Nikki and Wirrall, I think you could be right! Lots doesn't ring true!

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 10:23 PM
But I'm still here? :confused:

He He, actually we are mostly all trolls on here according to madam!

Shopping Trollies :giggle:

merryone
19-12-2012, 10:32 PM
In my experience the worst thing you can do with a troll is give it oxygen, and the penny has finally dropped that a troll is most definitely in our midst.

Once ignored they soon move onto their next victim :wave:

Who would have thought it (apart from me of course) Bid's only happy customer on here is a hoax lol!

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 10:35 PM
Who would have thought it (apart from me of course) Bid's only happy customer on here is a hoax lol!

Her last post was classic trolling in my opinion, starts with a sob story to attempt to make people feel guilty then erupts into an abusive tirade.

A decent person of a nice nature would do neither. Vile.

Anyway on a brighter note Mike is selling a Rosa Benini (you know the one) bag, he's throwing a few Fendi's, Prada's and Chanel's into the mix. He then says 'this isn't any of those bags, it's a Rosa Benini'. Spurious personified.

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merryone
19-12-2012, 10:45 PM
Hang on Merryone, I think you've just halved their number of err "happy customers"! Don't forget Moet&Muffins lol x.

Friends and family don't count lol!

Enigma
19-12-2012, 10:54 PM
Anyway on a brighter note Mike is selling a Rosa Benini

Isn't she the James Bond villain from the 1960s?

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 11:06 PM
Yep, now let me think...who would bother to come on this forum to defend bid, then when they made themselves look utterly stupid & rude in the process gradually builds up to a toxic tirade of insults with the sob story in between. Hmmmm it's a tricky one, err...nope, can't imagine who would be at all interested in doing that. I hope they have their worry angels close at hand for guidance & company :giggle:

On another note Wirral re the bag, seems like brand name tourettes is very contageous in Bid presenting land lol x.

The bag was a jigsaw of leather offcuts that are badly sewn together, and it has plastic embellishments. Very Fendi eh?

I think some people need more than just worry angels though Nikki. I suggest Lucky Elephants, Cherubs and Buddhas to cure such bitterness!

Can you believe some people just came in at 500 for a Gold Plated, Sterling Silver Tanzanite ring? They haven't even bothered mentioning the gold plate either in the pitch or on screen, they must now think just Sterling Silver makes it appear more valuable.

'Go and get it valued' Mike Mason is in maximum wideboy mode tonight and no mistake.

merryone
19-12-2012, 11:14 PM
The bag was a jigsaw of leather offcuts that are badly sewn together, and it has plastic embellishments. Very Fendi eh?

I think some people need more than just worry angels though Nikki. I suggest Lucky Elephants, Cherubs and Buddhas to cure such bitterness!

Can you believe some people just came in at 500 for a Gold Plated, Sterling Silver Tanzanite ring? They haven't even bothered mentioning the gold plate either in the pitch or on screen!

Do you think they could have "stooge buyers"? I can't believe anyone in their right mind would actually do that?

Enigma
19-12-2012, 11:27 PM
I love Mike's shock that a AAAA tanzanite (a grade that doesn't exist according to reputable gemologists) ring on a non-stop drop went under the 500 he expected it to go for; if Bid wanted 500 for it, WHY shove it on as a non-stop drop?

Plus they made an extra 800 in P+P and phone call charges from this, too.

Enigma
19-12-2012, 11:33 PM
Yep, now let me think...who would bother to come on this forum to defend bid, then when they made themselves look utterly stupid & rude in the process gradually builds up to a toxic tirade of insults with the sob story in between. Hmmmm it's a tricky one, err...nope, can't imagine who would be at all interested in doing that. I hope they have their worry angels close at hand for guidance & company :giggle:

On another note Wirral re the bag, seems like brand name tourettes is very contageous in Bid presenting land lol x.

Considering Katbaker says English isn't "her" first language, you may be right:

Katbaker: mummy talk (http://forum.shoppingtelly.com/forum/showthread.php?38785-The-Cheek-Caroline-Lyndsay/page4)

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 11:34 PM
I love Mike's shock that a AAAA tanzanite (a grade that doesn't exist according to reputable gemologists) ring on a non-stop drop went under the 500 he expected it to go for; if Bid wanted 500 for it, WHY shove it on as a non-stop drop?

Plus they made an extra 800 in P+P and phone call charges from this, too.

If they expected it to go for 500 why is the very same ring openly on sale on their website for 299.99?

http://store.bid.tv/bidtv/1.15ct-AAAA-Tanzanite-%26-0.21ct-Diamond-Ring--Set-in-18ct-Gold-Plated-Sterling-Silver---Size-P/GV134771/ProductDetail.raction

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 11:37 PM
Oh silly me, how could I have forgotten the Buddhas & the rest of Bid's ensemble of lucky charm delights!!
I saw the bag, looked bloody awful lol. Wirral, I wonder how many of these very expensive items get returned?? The yarvik has had more near miss extinctions than endangered species. Just found more in the warehouse someone said, you bet they did if u ask me! They don't say how they got there tho do they lol! x

That bag was serious tatt, some of the bags they sell look OK but not that one. It looked like something you might see on George & Mildred in the 70's, flares and platform shoes would go lovely with it.

I would be shocked if loads of the, ahem, expensive tanzanite rings are not returned, especially if they get valued.

Lordy knows what the mark up on them is.

Enigma
19-12-2012, 11:39 PM
If they expected it to go for 500 why is the very same ring openly on sale on their website for 299.99?

http://store.bid.tv/bidtv/1.15ct-AAAA-Tanzanite-%26-0.21ct-Diamond-Ring--Set-in-18ct-Gold-Plated-Sterling-Silver---Size-P/GV134771/ProductDetail.raction

That's the MAGIC of Bid TV :nod:

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 11:40 PM
Considering Katbaker says English isn't "her" first language, you may be right:

Katbaker: mummy talk (http://forum.shoppingtelly.com/forum/showthread.php?38785-The-Cheek-Caroline-Lyndsay/page4)

Rudeness is some peoples first language.

Wirral70
19-12-2012, 11:43 PM
Do you think they could have "stooge buyers"? I can't believe anyone in their right mind would actually do that?

Quite possibly Merry, or there could just be a lot of people who have had one too many.

In fact several too many. They'll probably wake up tomorrow with a terrible hangover and think 'oh no, what did I do last night' :giggle:

Can you imagine giving that bag as a gift? I wouldn't even give it to my worst enemy :giggle:

Plasmanoodle
19-12-2012, 11:47 PM
Just a thought: Do you think bid might realise the quality of their products has declined? They seem to have stopped advertising their bestbuys@bid.tv email address, and they never read any out these days. Maybe there were just tumbleweeds in that inbox?

I don't think I've seen it advertised since they turned 10. Perhaps even a little longer!

merryone
20-12-2012, 06:32 AM
Just a thought: Do you think bid might realise the quality of their products has declined? They seem to have stopped advertising their bestbuys@bid.tv email address, and they never read any out these days. Maybe there were just tumbleweeds in that inbox?

You don't hear them so much, though funnily enough very shortly after I'd posted a thread, and showed pictures of the appalling quality of their duvet covers, a viewer wrote in to say how "their bedding was her best buy" and how she buys it all the time. Perhaps, if they'd bought it somewhere else, they wouldn't have to keep buying it!

....Wirral, LOVE the George and Mildred comment!

newtobid
20-12-2012, 07:38 AM
only been watching a few months as most no

have heard the email address mentioned probably ten times tbf (mostly on price drop)

no idea if that is less often than before though

Hillary
20-12-2012, 09:09 AM
Kat was perfectly entitled to state her opinion, as are we all, but when she (assuming she is a she) descended into out and out personal abuse and disrespect towards other posters she lost all credibility. Hope she doesn't visit here again

Price Plunge
20-12-2012, 11:22 AM
Just a thought: Do you think bid might realise the quality of their products has declined? They seem to have stopped advertising their bestbuys@bid.tv email address, and they never read any out these days. Maybe there were just tumbleweeds in that inbox?
They still use that address as a generic contact address and I have seen them read out positive feedback (naturally) for products like bedding, but nowadays they sell so much jewellery, perfumes and cheap electrical products like near-useless alarm systems that they have relatively little use for this anymore.

They've also stopped showing their "97% of customers were satisfied or very satisfied with their purchase" style of promotion. Don't know when they stopped doing this but it was probably more than two years ago when they were last shown.

And as for people on forums, you always have to beware those people persistently making positive comments about something when the overall feedback tends to be negative; reviews on Amazon can be especially notorious for so-called 'sock-puppetry' depending on the category. I'm definitely not saying that all people with positive things to say are lying/trolls/people with 'issues'/people who work for Bid TV, etc., but all comments should be viewed in their overall context not just in isolation.

uavinalarf
20-12-2012, 04:46 PM
You are obviously connected with some one at sit up....in fact im almost sure you are..why would you other wise get so steamed up defending them....are you a secret wife sent to see what people are saying...are you a LADY/GODESS?? :taphead:

Woosie
20-12-2012, 07:39 PM
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Can you imagine giving that bag as a gift? I wouldn't even give it to my worst enemy :giggle:[/QUOTE]

I'd give it to Kat Baker. LOL!

Paul_s
20-12-2012, 07:54 PM
I can't believe a Bid presenter visiting a vunerable member of the public in their home... come to think of it they do it every day through the television.

If Mike Mason came to my door he'd get a bucket of cold water on his head and a restraining order.

mr_rossi
20-12-2012, 07:56 PM
If Mike Mason came to my door he'd get a bucket of cold water on his head and a restraining order.

You could at least let him EQ your sound system first. :song: :giggle:

mr_rossi
20-12-2012, 08:02 PM
'The Pot and the Kettle', a riveting book that was previously sold only in Harrods, but is now exclusively available from Bid. Printed on 24 carat gold leaf, this book can be yours for the bargain price of 1p (plus 7.99 delivery and 1.53 phone call charge). :happy:

Paul_s
20-12-2012, 08:08 PM
You could at least let him EQ your sound system first. :song: :giggle:

horror! The thought of him touching my gear is making me feel ill...

Enigma
20-12-2012, 08:23 PM
horror! The thought of him touching my gear is making me feel ill...

You don't want to be Mikeyboy's ladyboy/goddess? :happy:

Paul_s
20-12-2012, 08:26 PM
You don't want to be Mikeyboy's ladyboy/goddess? :happy:

no I bloody don't... thank you please :puke: :giggle:

Enigma
20-12-2012, 08:46 PM
no I bloody don't... thank you please :puke: :giggle:

Not even for an AAAAA tanzanite encrusted Dr Cringles sandal and a Saworfski shamballa worry angel?

Paul_s
21-12-2012, 02:01 PM
The answer is still NO! Not even if I got to meet Christin Lars :drunk:

petpixie
21-12-2012, 02:20 PM
483:
Not even for an AAAAA tanzanite encrusted Dr Cringles sandal and a Saworfski shamballa worry angel?

It's almost worth having having a station as sh*% as Bid for a comment like this. The only trouble is you'll be giving them ideas for their spring/summer stock.

Hillary
21-12-2012, 04:02 PM
The answer is still NO! Not even if I got to meet Christin Lars :drunk:

Not even Tommy & Kate?

Paul_s
21-12-2012, 04:39 PM
Not even Tommy & Kate?

Now I do have a soft spot for Kate. She floats my boat but if she's like Thomas Earnshaw in the fact she was born in 1788 and died in 1845... Bid.tv bought the rights to the name and then pay lip service to the highly regard original T&K then I will have to pass :smirk: