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Aleksandr Orlov
13-07-2008, 09:03 AM
My son needs a new comp and has been saving for an applemac but to me as a bit of a thicko when it comes to computers this one looks really good for the kind of thing he uses comps for,webcam,music ,games etc.
He is still sleeping so hasnt seen yet and I wondered what others forumees thoughts are on this item.Is it a good deal ? please advise:confused::confused:

Snoopy
13-07-2008, 09:08 AM
It looks the dogs nuts really but i'm sure you could spec a similar one on the net cheaper but the easy pay and 30 day mbg may make it worth getting.Dell build quality is supposed to be very good too.

Aleksandr Orlov
13-07-2008, 09:10 AM
thanks snoops hope it is still available by the time he gets out of his pit (usually late afternoon -ish !):eek:

WillyNilly
13-07-2008, 09:23 AM
This one is 629.00 on the Dell website, It's the basic Dell XPS M1530.

See here
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1530?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs

Snoopy
13-07-2008, 09:26 AM
TSV has 4 year warranty.

WillyNilly
13-07-2008, 10:24 AM
TSV has 4 year warranty.

In 4 years this laptop or any other you buy at the moment
will be obsolete you would not want it repaired.
1 year to 18 months warranty is more than than you need.
I have a 3 year old laptop and to upgrade it myself would cost
more than the cost of a new one, it is slow as hell as it was not made to run
the latest softwares available, and the the hardware for this is only available
on ebay. Also after a few years it's hard to find updates and so on.

Sazza
13-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Not everyone can afford to be buying a new laptop/pc within 4 years so having the 4 year warranty will be ideal for them.

Snoopy
13-07-2008, 10:49 AM
What Sazza said.

dunlop73
13-07-2008, 11:12 AM
Hi
This does look like a great laptop but if your son has made up his mind he wants a mac he won't want this. A macbook compares pretty well with this at 699 spec wise (unless he wants to play games in which case this would probably bet better), but comes with iLife software which would cost a fortune to replicate on a Windows machine. Also if your son is a student he will be entitled to educational discount.
I changed to macs about 4 years ago and wouldn't go back for all the tea in China.:)

tootsie
13-07-2008, 12:04 PM
This laptop looks amazing, I have the XPS M1330 and it's a fabulous piece of kit, having had several laptops die on me when they were still relatively newish I was more than happy to pay for the extended warranty on mine - yeah the machines are obsolete fairly quickly but if you are paying 700 for a piece of kit you do expect it last a bit longer than a year.

I bought mine with similar spec for about 150 more at Christmas. Sayinmg that, if your som is after an imac then this is no good to him - there are some programs which will only run on Macs, and if he wants his computer to run these specific programs then he really won't want this Dell machine.

Tilly
13-07-2008, 02:53 PM
Could I buy Office Pro seperately and load it onto this machine without crashing it?

sheepdog
13-07-2008, 03:02 PM
Well some good advice here - I'll just add my usual comment of laptops being dead money - basically it goes badly wrong then you might as well flog it on ebay. The parts that can be upgraded are: RAM, Hard drive & DVD/CD unit. Sometimes you can upgrade the CPU but its not cheap to do. In a few years time, you will be able to upgrade the graphics chip by inserting a slot-in card.

I'll also add, I spent 750 on my Asus 17" laptop over 18 months ago which came with a 2year International warranty. Taken it halfway round the world and been in the boot of my car and it still works fine. I had to replace the hard drive as it died just after backing up and upgraded the RAM (which reminds me I have 2x512MB to sell) which was very easy to do.

WilyNily, I'm guessing you bought a Celeron processor version with the limited cache - that's one of the reasons your laptop would be slow. The other being a 4200RPM hard drive. Even upgrading that to a 5400RPM makes a big difference. You might have too many programs starting up consuming memory too which msconfig will sort out for you.

BTW, having a MAC is great until you find out you can't actually play the latest PC games!

Sheepdog's advice: budget for a backup device & software when buying a laptop and backup regularly. It's a darn sight easier to reload the image than trying to reinstall everything on a new hard drive.

sheepdog
13-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Could I buy Office Pro seperately and load it onto this machine without crashing it?

Yes. But as long as you're willing to pay that amount for office pro ;)

Tilly
13-07-2008, 04:34 PM
Sheepdog, you certainly sound as though you know what you are talking about. I am like a car driver, can use the car but haven't a clue what goes on under the bonnet.

I can use my laptop (has to be a laptop) but my eyes glaze over when I try to work my way through the spec options.

I am used to the Office Pro i have had for five years and would like to retain that familiarity. I have never used Works.

I have seen this:

http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=MS79G00000&nbs_search=K=offic e+home

and an even cheaper version:

http://www.software4students.co.uk/?gclid=CKCd7-qLvZQCFRJvugodASMHTg

but if I buy the QVC Dell offer and remove Works and install Office Pro, I would like to be confident it will all work.

SUPERCOOLWILLOW
13-07-2008, 04:45 PM
i`m more or less certain that office pro will work on the dell tsv

Tilly
13-07-2008, 04:47 PM
Thanks SCW. I intend to watch QVC at five and make up my mind then.

SUPERCOOLWILLOW
13-07-2008, 05:16 PM
yep glad i could help

Aleksandr Orlov
13-07-2008, 05:27 PM
Hi
This does look like a great laptop but if your son has made up his mind he wants a mac he won't want this. A macbook compares pretty well with this at 699 spec wise (unless he wants to play games in which case this would probably bet better), but comes with iLife software which would cost a fortune to replicate on a Windows machine. Also if your son is a student he will be entitled to educational discount.
I changed to macs about 4 years ago and wouldn't go back for all the tea in China.:)

Hi dunlop thanks for you advice. My son is not a student but he wants the mac to plug guitars and things into which i dont think you can do with this one. I am confused now . I texted a question to QVC but they didnt answer to ask about the intruments and also they said you need a wireless N router does that mean our normal router i use for my wireless will not work? if we need to buy a new one then thats adds to the cost too doesnt it.

Aleksandr Orlov
13-07-2008, 05:32 PM
Btw we bought aforementioned son a desktop with 250gb the xmas before last and that has died and of course it only had a 12 guarantee . I am wondering now how easy it would be to get it repaired? It doesn't do anything does that mean the hardrive has gone?anyone??

logfire
13-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Amazon have a Dell XPS 1530 for 600 . Might be worth a look .

Tilly
13-07-2008, 05:45 PM
I have bought the TSV.

I was tempted by the pink but decided to be professional and ordered the black.

I am now having an attack of nerves!

Tilly
13-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Too late Logfire. LOL. We must have been typing at the same time!

I did look on the Dell site. My current and ancient laptop is SO slow that it took ages. There are lots of bells and whistles on the TSV and the fast onsite maintenance is worth it to me as I can't be without email access for work purposes.

I have been dithering for ages, not being able to make up my mind which bell and whistles I do and don't want. I am not at all sure about setting up wireless so that will be a whole new experience.

ringtree
13-07-2008, 06:01 PM
I want the pink tsv so much. But cannot justify as my laptop is fine -it is a Dell and their customer services are good. This laptop looks smaller than mine so really will be portable. You are lucky Tilly - go for it.

sheepdog
13-07-2008, 06:02 PM
Hi dunlop thanks for you advice. My son is not a student but he wants the mac to plug guitars and things into which i dont think you can do with this one. I am confused now . I texted a question to QVC but they didnt answer to ask about the intruments and also they said you need a wireless N router does that mean our normal router i use for my wireless will not work? if we need to buy a new one then thats adds to the cost too doesnt it.

It should pick up a wireless signal and drop back to the speed of the router otherwise you'll need to go into the laptop settings and alter it to pick up the router. I'd be surprised if you required a new router as the specs say Dell Wireless 1505N & b/g which means it will pick up the G version of wireless. Unless you have the B version only on your router then no need to upgrade it. The only time I've played with Vista to set up a wireless connection it was extremely easy - just a case of making sure the right encryption key is selected.

Now, one day when I get a guitar I want to do the same thing. Have a look at this website for ideas (note you can get a USB box which is perfect):http://www.etcetera.co.uk/Support/howto/howtoConnectGuitar.shtml
The box has MIDI ports so expandable for keyboards etc.

EDIT: no wonder they mentioned you needed to upgrade your router. They've got one for sale on the website (http://www.qvcuk.com/ukqic/qvcapp.aspx/app.detail/walk.yah.UKEL~UK16). I think the term is called "upselling"!

dunlop73
13-07-2008, 06:07 PM
Hi dunlop thanks for you advice. My son is not a student but he wants the mac to plug guitars and things into which i dont think you can do with this one. I am confused now . I texted a question to QVC but they didnt answer to ask about the intruments and also they said you need a wireless N router does that mean our normal router i use for my wireless will not work? if we need to buy a new one then thats adds to the cost too doesnt it.

If he is in to music he should definitely get a mac - instruments work really well with Garageband which comes with any new Mac, and is a great tool till you are ready for Logic Express or Pro. Macs and PCs which are 'N' compatible will also by default work with b or g wireless networks too so there would be no need to upgrade unless you wanted the faster speeds.

Hope that helps

Jon

tootsie
13-07-2008, 06:26 PM
I really wanted a pink laptop too, but decided it wouldn't look very professional, so I ordered red instead. I still get comments on my laptop looking lush when I get it out, it's sooooo stylish!

bbelle
13-07-2008, 06:32 PM
I really wanted a pink laptop too, but decided it wouldn't look very professional, so I ordered red instead. I still get comments on my laptop looking lush when I get it out, it's sooooo stylish!

My next one has to be green. Are we just being girly and shallow? Do I care? :rolleyes:

Tilly
13-07-2008, 07:12 PM
I am regretting not getting the pink now! I just kept thinking of the raised eyebrows when I use it at work.

Next time...

tootsie
13-07-2008, 08:16 PM
Yeah, next time I'm getting pink for sure. And I'm getting my next car in yellow, the fact that Chris and the kids are already refusing to get in it with me can only be considered a bonus :)

Tilly
13-07-2008, 08:26 PM
LOL Tootsie.

bbelle
13-07-2008, 08:26 PM
Yeah, next time I'm getting pink for sure. And I'm getting my next car in yellow, the fact that Chris and the kids are already refusing to get in it with me can only be considered a bonus :)

If you wear leopardskin leggings they won't go anywhere with you. Ever.;)

SUPERCOOLWILLOW
13-07-2008, 08:28 PM
nothing wrong with a yellow car or a pink laptop

i might be a guy but i quite liked the pink laptop the best out of the 3 there again i do like to stand out

Aleksandr Orlov
13-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Well he decided to give this laptop a try so has ordered it in the black but we found that QVC do not accept visa electron so mummy has had to pay on her credit card! Lets hope he hates it and sends it back;)

SUPERCOOLWILLOW
13-07-2008, 09:05 PM
ohh someone else gone for the tsv then it seems a good value one for a change

tootsie
13-07-2008, 10:00 PM
Haha, good mummy!! My mum bought my last laptop for me too, but told me I'd have to pay her back if I failed my course haha

SUPERCOOLWILLOW
13-07-2008, 10:39 PM
tootsie you better not fail then lol

bbelle
13-07-2008, 11:09 PM
tootsie you better not fail then lol

There's no chance of that SCW. Tootsie will pass with flying colours!

SUPERCOOLWILLOW
13-07-2008, 11:18 PM
yep flying laptop colours lol

tootsie
13-07-2008, 11:57 PM
tootsie you better not fail then lol

Thank goodness there's very little I could do to make me fail now, I've got it all just about sewn up :p

LOL, I will pass with flying laptop colours hehe

tootsie
13-07-2008, 11:58 PM
There's no chance of that SCW. Tootsie will pass with flying colours!

As will you, bbelle :D

bbelle
14-07-2008, 12:03 AM
As will you, bbelle :D

Thanks, I hope so- even with a boring old black laptop!! Hehe :D