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    I was reading a copy of Hello! Magazine dated 19 August at my hairdresser this morning. I came across an article about 7 older women who are "menopause champions", one of which was a completely unrecognisable Liz Earle. Has she had more work done I wonder? I never read or listen to her pronouncements on menopause, as I don't like her one-dimensional "expertise" on the subject which ignores anyone whose health situation means they cannot take any hormone replacement type supplements (natural or pharmaceutical)...

    Did anyone else see the article? Another QVC alumn Andrea McLean was also featured.

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    What fragranced Liz has had work done!

    I mean every time she was on QVC they used the soft focus golden light. Until the once, they forgot quite a difference in how she actually looked.
     

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    I never read anything about women's health; I've always attended the necessary screening appointments & know what I have to do with regards alcohol, diet & lifestyle so other women's stories are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. This has become even more apparent since I had my menopause, it happened two months after I was 50 & can only be described as a non-event leaving me with a few weeks of hot flashes a couple of times a year & no other problems. I can't think of a single woman I've ever known who experienced the problems these celebs endure, that could be down to many things, not least the fact that they knew it was part of life & just got on with it. The most recent photo I saw of Liz Earle showed a woman who looked as though her face had been ironed it was so devoid of character.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    I never read anything about women's health; I've always attended the necessary screening appointments & know what I have to do with regards alcohol, diet & lifestyle so other women's stories are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. This has become even more apparent since I had my menopause, it happened two months after I was 50 & can only be described as a non-event leaving me with a few weeks of hot flashes a couple of times a year & no other problems. I can't think of a single woman I've ever known who experienced the problems these celebs endure, that could be down to many things, not least the fact that they knew it was part of life & just got on with it. The most recent photo I saw of Liz Earle showed a woman who looked as though her face had been ironed it was so devoid of character.
    And they nearly all die giving birth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    I never read anything about women's health; I've always attended the necessary screening appointments & know what I have to do with regards alcohol, diet & lifestyle so other women's stories are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. This has become even more apparent since I had my menopause, it happened two months after I was 50 & can only be described as a non-event leaving me with a few weeks of hot flashes a couple of times a year & no other problems. I can't think of a single woman I've ever known who experienced the problems these celebs endure, that could be down to many things, not least the fact that they knew it was part of life & just got on with it. The most recent photo I saw of Liz Earle showed a woman who looked as though her face had been ironed it was so devoid of character.
    Sorry, Twilight but I have to disagree with you about "just getting on with it" as I am currently going through just about every menopause symptom out there at the moment. Getting on with it isn't an option for me and as much as I'm loathe to admit it, at least these 'slebs are bringing some attention to the worst menopausal symptoms.

    Only about 20% of us do suffer badly so when we complain to someone belonging to the other 80% we get looked at as if we have two heads. My OH's mother sailed through the menopause and couldn't believe it when she walked in on me in front of two fans, dripping with sweat and absolutely exhausted - in the middle of winter. I've also had a fight to get HRT from female GPs. I'm a drama queen apparently.

    The Menopausematters website is where I like to hang out a lot as the women there are going through the same thing as me and understand how awful these symptoms (and the way we're treated by many health professionals) are.

    I also suffered REALLY badly with debilitating PMS - now recognised (by some) as PMDD. I'd love to know if any ladies here have gone/are going through a bad menopause and also had bad PMS. Surely there must be a link?

    I also have TM (a nerve condition similar to MS) which causes me to react badly to heat. Including the bloody flushes! It may be this that's triggered all my hormonal problems but after speaking to some of my former school friends I don't think so. Some, like me, are suffering badly, some like you are sailing through it.

    My mum had a lot of health problems but was on steroids (which eventually killed her) but she looked "healthy" so was considered by many people (as I overheard in a shop one day) as an attention seeker. Mum always used to say "walk a mile in my shoes" which is something I always remember when I meet someone who is having health problems.

    I have an absolutely wonderful gynae now who also used the same phrase when talking about certain treatments prescribed making you look well but don't work as well as they look. She's got me on a regime that's just starting to help in some ways but not in others. I have faith that she'll help me through it, though. After seeing some other GPs and gynaes, finding her has been like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Knowing my luck she'll retire next year!
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    I’m quite proud of myself when I look back and think of all the smears, laser treatment, biopsies, colposcopy eventually leading to a hysterectomy at 28 (November 11th I’ll be 54, God spares me) that I went through at such a young age. We had our first beautiful son at 19, that’s when the cervical abnormalities were noticed on my eight week check up at the maternity hospital, so he literally saved my life because I would never have gone for a smear at 19. We decided to have our second child a couple of years later while I was getting checked regularly, after our second beautiful son was born I was 22 and after that it was all systems go, smears, laser, colposcopy, hysterectomy, in that order. I agree with T, when you’re faced with women’s health issues you don’t really want to know how others are getting through it, or at least I didn’t, when I was going through my ordeal, all I wanted was to concentrate on my own personal battle. Thankfully I won that fight, and our two gorgeous sons are tall, dark, handsome amazing men, sons, fathers and husbands with professional jobs, beautiful homes and gave us an amazing grandson each. I say, what ever gets you through is right for you.......hey! I’m a poet and didn’t know it.

    I now have adult onset asthma and under active thyroid, oh the joys of gettin’ on a bit
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    Alter Ego I had awful PMS although not as bad as some of my friends (who turned out to have undiagnosed endometriosis). Their symptoms were off the scale awful!

    I had an early menopause courtesy of tamoxifen, and although bumpy, I felt I got off lightly compared to those who couldn't endure their symptoms and had to stop tamoxifen earlier than the recommended (at that time) 5 years.

    My symptoms got progressively worse over time. By the time I was nearing the end of 5 years the weight was piling on, uninterrupted sleep was a myth I'd once heard of...And the guidance had been extended to 10 years!! I threw in the towel at that point after discussing with the consultant. I felt the health risks of weight gain and lack of sleep were worse than the risks of stopping tamoxifen. The weight is still a stuggle, but it's stopped increasing.

    I had a second "natural" menopase, which was worse. I still get power surges at random times, and overcome with heat in unpredictable ways at inappropriate times. Dealing with menopause symptoms in their worst manifestations is not for the faint hearted. I still feel I got off lightly compared with a number of my friends...
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    Here in Ireland and I think Scotland women are far more open talking about such things with each other. I remember as a small child about 4 being taken to see my Mum in hospital and she had the big operation as it was called. My granny was a Scot and her and other older women opening talked about such things. Back in the 60s and I think up to the mid or later 70s women taken into hospital for a hysterectomy was normal women in their mid-40s.

    A friend who is 68 still swears she gets the hot flushes. I admit in my 50s perhaps 53+ I sailed through mine, I have a dodgy thyroid. But I know women who had to get up and change the bed twice a night because of the night sweats. My GP did not agree with just handing out HRT unless you really needed it. A friend who is going through it now tried 3 different types of HRT and thought she was taking a heart attack do now just getting on with the sweats and bone-numbing tiredness.

    I always went for my breast scams and cervical the latter I always had trouble with they used to give me valium before I went. Turns out I had a tilted womb and cervix too. My periods always very heavy but strangely not that painfull super plus Tampax and pads for me. Now after an x-ray for my hip they have found calcified fibroids the ultrasound did not work because of my tilted womb so have to wait to be called by gynaecological for an MRI. So I might have to have the big operation like my Mum.

    Ah, ladies the wonders of being a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maymorganlondon View Post
    Alter Ego I had awful PMS although not as bad as some of my friends (who turned out to have undiagnosed endometriosis). Their symptoms were off the scale awful!

    I had an early menopause courtesy of tamoxifen, and although bumpy, I felt I got off lightly compared to those who couldn't endure their symptoms and had to stop tamoxifen earlier than the recommended (at that time) 5 years.

    My symptoms got progressively worse over time. By the time I was nearing the end of 5 years the weight was piling on, uninterrupted sleep was a myth I'd once heard of...And the guidance had been extended to 10 years!! I threw in the towel at that point after discussing with the consultant. I felt the health risks of weight gain and lack of sleep were worse than the risks of stopping tamoxifen. The weight is still a stuggle, but it's stopped increasing.

    I had a second "natural" menopase, which was worse. I still get power surges at random times, and overcome with heat in unpredictable ways at inappropriate times. Dealing with menopause symptoms in their worst manifestations is not for the faint hearted. I still feel I got off lightly compared with a number of my friends...
    May - I'm so sorry you've had to go through all that. My PMS made me a complete bitch that I could not keep in check even though I knew I'd be sorry for saying what came out of my mouth every time I opened it during PMS week. Now I'm having HRT PMS and I'm hitting bitch mode even more frequently (I'm in bitch mode right now hence my OH has buggered off down his shed!).

    I hate myself for saying things I don't even mean but can only stop myself with a supreme act of will. This makes me very depressed when I see how hurtful I've been, especially to my lovely OH. I'm just lucky that he understands.

    Oh yes, the uninterrupted sleep myth. I've not slept longer than four hours for years - and that's when I'm extremely tired and with the help of meds. Mostly I wake every two hours and take ages to get off again. My mental health has certainly suffered over the years through hormones and lack of sleep.

    And the weight. Yep, been there, too. I'm currently on Provera which was supposed to be a no-bleed regime. Ha! I'm doing nothing but (not helping the fatigue), and as it's also used to stimulate appetite in some people I'm sure you can guess what's happening now.

    My PMS was miserable, menopause is 10x worse. I hope from the bottom of my heart that you can beat the symptoms you've been having and get back to your normal healthy self again soon.
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