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Ive been a member on here for years and have seen the tone change over time. It always used to be about QVC, the products and customer experience but its become more a full on 'b*t*h fest' aimed at anyone and everyone who doesnt agree with group think. Some of the comments about presenters are...

Click is on the News Channel at 12.30 on Saturday (and I think Sundays) that is the full 30 min show. The ones on BBC 1 at 0745 are the short 15 minute versions

Love EL but they test on animals to see in China so its a no from me.

Shame they are owned by L'Oreal - kind of undermines their 'green' credentials!

Kind of inevitable I think given the last few months but sad and a total waste nonetheless

Yeah you can, there are a couple of trade manufacturers in the uk that that is exactly how they work. Mind you pretty sure Qs candles are from China with as many corners cut as possible.

I dont recall which one Elemis has if at all, my point was simply that there are many companies who are cruellty free but have never signed up to any formal scheme. All the schemes are subsciption/paid services and each one has its own flaws i.e. you can be cruelty free but owned by a...

Nars got a similar backlash as well. So many of the smaller cruelty free brands build up a great following and they then sell out to the major names who put profut before ethics - wish more companies would listen to what their customers say!

You dont have to be certified to be cruelty free or vegan

Loads of countries still test on animals but China is the only one (that I know of) that insists that products retailed in mainland China are tested on animals before they can be sold. Loads of mainsteam brands that chase the Chinese market ignore how damaging this is just to make money - all...

You dont have to have the leaping bunny to be cruelty free - plus there is more than one accreditation scheme.

Another brand snapped up by a predatory company and will be sold in China - time to cross Elemis off the cruelty free list I fear.

Tarte is owned by Kose who still test on animals so, IMO not strictly cruelty free but everyone has to draw their own lines.

Pretty sure the Jerome Alexander one had (or used to have) talc in it - wish QVC would have some decent properly cruelty free products

I might be wrong but wasnt he on Dragons Den? Got investment from Tej Levani I think

Yes Iron Oxide is a 'natural' colourant

Qaulified PT and nutritiomist here - back story, put on loads of weight, got fit, got healthy became a PT and loved it. Had to give up following a string of injuries following an accident. Anyway, that was me - advice I would always give clients is the advice I try to give myself. Dont try...

Why? Having just spent what feels like a lifetime reading this thread I cannot believe that this has been allowed to continue for this long. Its a shopping channel, why on earth are people so upset about something that in the grand scheme of things is so trivial and why the witch hunt? Half...

Haven't been on here for ages but had to comment on this! Used to buy loads of make up and skin care from QVC but went off most of it when I started looking into the ingredients and animal testing policy of their products. Despite asking Q and AY for a comment or a recommendation they simply...

Used to love C&P until they sold out to Avon - IMO they cannot claim to be as green or ethical as they did and given Avon's stance on animal testing I wouldn't support them by giving money to LE