Liz Earle - the person - Page 3





Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 46
  1. #21
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Herts/Beds
    Posts
    7,065
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Following on from my above comment, I cannot understand why pregnant slebs have to expose their well expanded bellies to the world, - it does nothing for me, nor I suspect to anyone else. Pure vanity, and TBH not something I want to see.
     

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    13,150
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Well, brissles according to the Daily Mail all pregnant women flaunt their baby bumps. Even if they are covered up in loose clothing.
     

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,444
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    Those who have written about your health concerns are brave, honest & proof that good health, mental & physical, is everything. Presumably it's only been within the past century that the majority of women have experienced all these issues with the menopause because only the upper class would have lived long enough; I saw the shocked faces of girls in a history lesson when I told them the average life expectancy for a woman in 1841 was 43.
    My dad nearly died from an infection in a small scratch pre-war. It was only constant hot bread poultices saved his hand (and probably his life - he lost his thumb). This was pre antibiotics.

    I was brought up with parents, grandparents and neighbours who were terrified of gangrene and would always watch for signs of what we now call sepsis after a cut. Although antibiotics had become freely available, people used to losing their friends and family within days to blood poisoning couldn't get used to not looking out for it.

    In such a short time it seems like younger people are completely unaware of how their families lived less than 100 years ago. I've heard today that we're now no longer measles-free due to people (stupid, listening to even stupider people on FB IMHO) not vaccinating. I'd listen to my mum and nan talk of people who'd lost their children to childhood diseases like measles. Mum insisted on me having mine and my sister (lot older than me) vaccinating my nieces. She was genuinely terrified that if we didn't we'd succumb to these diseases and she'd lose us. Apparently, complications led to death more than disablement back then.

    It seems it's not just disease either. Death in childbirth rates are up in this country - still rare, thankfully - but not surprising the way women are being treated in labour these days. It seems to me (though I've only experienced it second-hand with one of my nieces and more recently, the daughters of two friends) that the medical profession would rather see women labour for a week with extreme difficulty than perform C-section. All three of these young women have been kept in 7/8 days, costing the NHS more than if they'd done the C-sections two had asked for in their plan!

    I'm ranting now (I blame menopause ) so time to get off my soapbox.
    Thanks Tarketta , shopperholic thanked for this post
     

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,444
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by brissles View Post
    I've worked in a mental health unit, so I know how ill many are with mental issues, and that there is never enough funding for the department.

    I do feel though that once a celeb starts giving interviews about their journey or battle with an ailment, then it becomes bandwagon for the rest of the celebrity world to jump on if it gives then 'coverage'.

    Personally I'm fed up with the numerous magazine articles and newspaper column inches given over to the likes of Carol Vorderman, Andrea McLean, Jane McDonald, Chloe Maddeley, the Nolans, Jenny Éclair, Nadya Hussein - the list is endless, of how they coped with anxiety, panic attacks, menopause etc etc.

    Surprisingly it hasn't stopped any one of them from stepping in front of the camera in front of millions - quite big in terms of having an anxiety attack I would have thought ? or getting dolled up for yet another red carpet appearance.

    Sorry, but those I witnessed in the mental unit, could barely make it through the day - not just once, but for months/years on end with their problems, so I really have no time for Vorderman and the rest of them.
    Another who'd like to thank you, although I went through several CBT counsellors before I found "the one" and the difference in care/training/approach astounded me. My friend is a now retired CPN. She used to tell me how heartbreaking some cases were. She also told me what sh!ts some of the staff were, too. One male CPN would dose the patients he didn't like before discharge so they'd be left collapsed and incontinent not long after leaving hospital. God knows how he treated others under his care. I hope Karma's got his name.

    I couldn't leave the house for years when my mental health was bad. I was too anxious to go into my back garden to hang washing in case one of my neighbours wanted to say hello. My washing only got dried when there were no cars either side!

    Totally agree with you about the same people coat-tailing the same people. When one starts they all go. Maybe they have a bit of sheep DNA in them. I notice MM now has her own range of menopause products she sells. I won't be trying them.

    I am grateful to some of them for bringing menopause treatments to the fore, though. I'd still be on tablets that made my anxiety worse than it had been my whole life if I hadn't heard CV on Lorraine mention she uses a gel.

    Oddly enough after reading up about it and even printing the name and guidelines from NICE and giving it to them, three female GPs denied its existence. As did one female gynae. (Is it nasty to hope that one day they suffer like I do?) Only my lovely current gynae confirmed I wasn't imagining it existed and gave it to me - and it's helped more than anything. I feel sorry for women who do get on with the tab (Elleste Duet) as it's now on the short-and-soon-to-be-missing list according to the British Menopause Society. Wonder what those GPs/gynaes are giving women now?

    Thanks, Brissles
    Thanks Totally Loopy Lou thanked for this post
    Likes Twilight , shopperholic , donna255 liked this post
     

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Herts/Beds
    Posts
    7,065
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by donna255 View Post
    Well, brissles according to the Daily Mail all pregnant women flaunt their baby bumps. Even if they are covered up in loose clothing.
    Sorry, I should have said 'naked' baby bumps.
     

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,444
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight View Post
    I've always been annoyed when people have said "I'm starving" only a few hours after eating their last meal & feel the same way about someone saying they're depressed because the weather's bad, they've broken a nail or their favourite has been eliminated from a reality show. Our younger daughter was bullied when she started her first teaching job, the only career she'd ever wanted, her slide into the deepest depression was horrendous & the recovery took all of her strength & mine. She came through but when she had her baby last year I watched her for signs that she was about to go under. She's fine, & more importantly, aware that she's ok but it shocked me to the core & made me think again about the fragility of life. I do wonder if this was the point that I looked at the vapid commercialism of selly telly & saw it for what it is.
    Glad your daughter pulled through - she's so lucky to have you. I wish my mum had been around to help me. I felt so alone that it made me realise that a support network of family and friends is the most important part of life.

    I had PND (another thing I blame on hormones!) and suffered awful depression after my miscarriages - again I believe my hormones played a major part). I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
    Thanks Twilight thanked for this post
    Likes shopperholic liked this post
     

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Herts/Beds
    Posts
    7,065
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by alter ego View Post
    Another who'd like to thank you, although I went through several CBT counsellors before I found "the one" and the difference in care/training/approach astounded me. My friend is a now retired CPN. She used to tell me how heartbreaking some cases were. She also told me what sh!ts some of the staff were, too. One male CPN would dose the patients he didn't like before discharge so they'd be left collapsed and incontinent not long after leaving hospital. God knows how he treated others under his care. I hope Karma's got his name.

    I couldn't leave the house for years when my mental health was bad. I was too anxious to go into my back garden to hang washing in case one of my neighbours wanted to say hello. My washing only got dried when there were no cars either side!

    Totally agree with you about the same people coat-tailing the same people. When one starts they all go. Maybe they have a bit of sheep DNA in them. I notice MM now has her own range of menopause products she sells. I won't be trying them.

    I am grateful to some of them for bringing menopause treatments to the fore, though. I'd still be on tablets that made my anxiety worse than it had been my whole life if I hadn't heard CV on Lorraine mention she uses a gel.

    Oddly enough after reading up about it and even printing the name and guidelines from NICE and giving it to them, three female GPs denied its existence. As did one female gynae. (Is it nasty to hope that one day they suffer like I do?) Only my lovely current gynae confirmed I wasn't imagining it existed and gave it to me - and it's helped more than anything. I feel sorry for women who do get on with the tab (Elleste Duet) as it's now on the short-and-soon-to-be-missing list according to the British Menopause Society. Wonder what those GPs/gynaes are giving women now?

    Thanks, Brissles

    Bless you, and hope your life is more bearable now.

    Your inability to leave the house resonated with me, as I was 13 years old when my Mum suffered her breakdown and became housebound at age 35. While Dad worked I had to pick up the pieces of the daily household, like getting 2 younger brothers ready for school, taking them there and picking them up, plus doing the food shopping. With the help of medication Mum coped much better, but then was unable to come of the tablets, which in the 60's were Valium, Parstellin and Librium. She lived until age 82, and was still taking medication for her 'nerves'. So when in later years I worked with the mentally ill, I gained a much better insight into what my Mum was going through and the feelings of hopelessness she felt at the time.
    Thanks alter ego thanked for this post
     

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    6,641
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    So many women, and men, had their lives messed up by prescription tranquilisers. The "easy" solution when someone went to see a GP and fit a sterotype. My mum was prescribed valium and librium when she was in her early 40's. She had early symptoms of multiple sclerosis. One of my friends fathers was given tranquilisers he could never come off, and it robbed him of his career in law and meant his wife having to go out to work as well as caring for him.

    Fortunately the medical profession is getting more enlightened...though you still have to be assertive with them when the trained-in arrogance peeps through, I find. Having lived with medical students and spent far too much time around medics, this is my experience, so I make no apology.
     

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    1,444
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by brissles View Post
    Following on from my above comment, I cannot understand why pregnant slebs have to expose their well expanded bellies to the world, - it does nothing for me, nor I suspect to anyone else. Pure vanity, and TBH not something I want to see.
    Me neither. Not keen on the current fashion for flopping both boobs out in cafes to breast feed either. I managed to do it discreetly, as do many others but I was in a Starbucks last year where several women were sitting on sofas literally topless feeding their little ones. If I hadn't been so sure they were loving the attention I'd have gone over and told them about the two men taking pictures of them.



    I wonder what Starbucks (other cafes are available) thinks of groups like this. They came in just before me so it gave me the opportunity to see reactions of others coming in. The women themselves were being very loud and looked to be playing to the (lack of) crowd. Apart from myself, there were two single men (the ones sneakily taking photos). A few minutes later a group of about 7-8 teen boys came through the door, started sniggering and pointing then left. A few women in couples came in and sat, a couple (clearly Muslim) turned away when they saw the "show" as did a few older couples. Although the'd bought their coffees, Starbucks clearly lost business while they were there.

    I see many women with their partners or mums quietly breastfeeding when I do get out but I don't get this public display that some of these women feel they have to put on. Do they think they're the first/only women in history that have managed to feed their babies? Same goes with the bumps. Do they think they're the only women who have sported a bump? That they're that special?
     

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Herts/Beds
    Posts
    7,065
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Ok, sorry to bang on about Carol Vorderman, but here we go.

    She's been martyred in the press and tv for 'coming out' and 'being honest' about her menopausal experiences, her 'battle' with depression and coping with the aftermath of her mother dying. Which she has done in spades for about a couple of years (but feels like forever!).

    NOW there are magazine articles abound, where she has recently told the world that her 50's are the best years EVER and that she loves to party.. HARD !

    Sadly I'm not on Twitter, but how I'd love to say to her "FFS Vorderman make your sodding mind up !" - one minute she's on the floor with depression and feeling suicidal and now miraculously, like Lazarus rising from the dead, she's had the best decade in her life.

    I'm coming to the conclusion that her persistent about turns, could be one of the reasons why she's been left high and dry by the blokes in her life.

    Oh, and Carol ? there was SOOOO much publicity about you flying around the world 3 years ago, that's another thing your life that appears to have hit the buffers ! Never mind, just carry on wearing skin tight clothes and posing for the cameras, because that's all you seem suited for lately.
     

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •