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[Calvin]

You stay where you are Mira- please!!! I watch with the sound off and your knowledge of ring/bracelet sizes and earring drops etc is invaluable. Some of the chat is OTT (children's constipation, anyone??? ) but your's comes into the 'very helpful' category and I'm certain your friendly greetings to newbies puts them at ease.

(I joined in week two, btw:mysmilie_17

 

[glitterbug]

Please stay and chat Mirabelle. I'm not a big fan of the chat room but I like your sort of posts very much ie information about the gems and the general well-being of other people.

There seem to be a few spoilers/trolls both here and in chat at the moment. Sadly this is to be expected with the type of business. What matters is that we keep getting the kind of jewellery that we like at great prices and that the chat continues to be helpful, light-hearted and caring.

I chat a little as twig but mostly just SPEND!:mysmilie_61:

 

[Anjo]

I was sorry to see Mira's entries to this forum. I just wanted to say personally Mira I have found your contributions to chat very helpful, you have answered my questions, and I often find myself waiting for you to put the details of a piece up while the presenter talks about sheep, bling bars, whatever.

So please stick with it (I know you had a rough time at CR over the week-end as well with an order) as I am certain I am not the only one who finds what you do incredibly helpful.
so :mysmilie_687: and a big :mysmilie_1296::mysmilie_1296: from me

 

[concordia]

:mysmilie_348:I don't chat much, usually to request but that is gone now or to ask a question, which Mirabelle you have often been great at answering! I suppose it is sometimes because I don't want to get involved in people's conversations about other things, don't want to interrupt or sound rude...that's ok it's great to have the facility, but it's just not me. I do like to read that people have a certain bit of jewellery and they like it etc., it's very helpful and Mirabelle's info on lengths and drops and gems is really important as they don't seem to provide this info on the screen. :mysmilie_687:
I am guilty of asking recently if people had been there since day one. So many businesses, especially new ones and internet ones, have a high turnover of customers. I was intrigued to know if there was a large core of folks who had stuck with the company through the many changes it has made over the past almost 2 years. It is a kudos to Rocks that so many are still shopping with them after all this time. OK, maybe that just shows my fickleness with shopping, I tried other gems channels and bought bits, but not stayed. For some reason, with Rocks I have come back again and again. So, sorry, if I have upset or offended anyone. :mysmilie_34:

PS I'm Lizzie on Rocks by the way.

 

[jacqualina]

I'm confused, I can't understand this thread at all. What does it matter how long anyone has been with Rockstv? July 2008? As far as I'm concerned, that is the start! I very rarely enter chat now, but I do appreciate all your contributions Mira, please don't stop doing what you've been doing for so long.

 

[rebeccab]

Mira, you do a fab job in chat, i usually watch with the sound off mainly so oh doesnt know what im up to<a href="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.smileycentral.com%252F%253Fpartner%253DZSzeb008%255FZNxpt484YYGB%2526i%253D36%252F36%255F1%255F3%2526feat%253Dprof/page.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_3.gif" alt="SmileyCentral.com" border="0"><img border="0" src="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fimgfarm%252Ecom%252Fimages%252Fnocache%252Ftr%252Ffw%252Fsmiley%252Fsocial%252Egif%253Fi%253D36%252F36_1_3%2526uiv%253D3.0/image.gif"></a> , so when you type the length of a chain/earrings or the gem carat weight, it really helps, Ive been there since the beta days but dont feel the need to shout it, i think the quality and value of the jewellery does that for me, and surely the amount of people in the chat room should put newbies at ease, i dont tend to chat too much unless theres people i know on there, sometimes its a bit like the school playground, and that was bad enough first time round!!! keep up what your doing mira, but only if you want to

 

[Dingbat]

I spend more time lurking than chatting. When I first started I chatted a lot, but I'm having to spend more time working now - lol.

I have NOT been there since the beginning, in fact I have no idea when I did start but it's well over 1 year now anyway.

Having been there quite a long time (and working and lurking) I also have to say to you Mira, PLEASE DON'T stop doing what you do so very well!!!! There
are loads of people who watch with no sound (for whatever reason) and you
are soooooooooo helpful. If people don't like it, tough, you are certainly not doing any harm to anyone at all, completely the opposite. The staff at Rockstv are certainly VERY grateful for your contribution, and so are loads of customers - you go for it girl!!!!

There, said my bit, now back to work lol.

 

[fwend]

Mira! Fwend here ! I dont do chat but I do enjoy reading it (I'm nosey!) But I've always found your comments useful and you do make people feel welcome! So please stay your needed by all!!!!!xxxxxx

 

[PrincessRacer]

Just to be clear...

I am NOT a stirrer, and don't appreciate being called that. I was very clear in my post where I said that it naffs me off when people say they have been there since the start, when in reality, it was a FEW MONTHS after that when they joined. I mentioned no names, but wanted to air something that was getting up my nose - get it off my chest if you will. That's all I said. I didn't say 'OMG why doesn't Mira shut up' - indeed I would never say anything so offensive and insulting to a long standing, respected member of our on line community!

Mira put her own name forward in response to my post - indeed I wasn't even thinking of Mira when I made the comment, but others - and when you look at her response to someone (excuse my ignorance, I don't remember who it was!) who asked when she joined Rocks, I don't know why, given she was there for the Beta weekend. When Mira did put her name forward I said to her that I have a lot of respect for her for that as it takes a big person to do it, and I stand by that because it does. There aren't many that would see someone going 'ooo that gets right up my nose' and then put on a comment saying 'erm...actually that would be me then!' as most wouldn't have the kahoonas!! It took me by surprise because as I have said, it wasn't her that I was thinking of when I ranted, but if she feels that she has been doing it, then good for her for saying it, I say!

...and sorry to speak about people as though they are not there and in the third person 'she' and 'her' and all that...that's another bug bear of mine that I find very rude, so apologies Mira!

I mentioned no names, had no intention of ever doing so, and did not - indeed WOULD NOT - make the kind of comments people seem to have read into the original post. I was naffed off. I was having a wee rant, as we all do sometimes. What I didn't do was blatantly slag someone off as all these comments seem to think I did.

Judge me on what I actually say...not on what you think I might have said, because as you can see, there is a WHOLE WIDE WORLD of difference!!!

 

[Calvin]

Just to be clear...

I am NOT a stirrer, and don't appreciate being called that. I was very clear in my post where I said that it naffs me off when people say they have been there since the start, when in reality, it was a FEW MONTHS after that when they joined. I mentioned no names, but wanted to air something that was getting up my nose - get it off my chest if you will. That's all I said. I didn't say 'OMG why doesn't Mira shut up' - indeed I would never say anything so offensive and insulting to a long standing, respected member of our on line community!

Mira put her own name forward in response to my post - indeed I wasn't even thinking of Mira when I made the comment, but others - and when you look at her response to someone (excuse my ignorance, I don't remember who it was!) who asked when she joined Rocks, I don't know why, given she was there for the Beta weekend. When Mira did put her name forward I said to her that I have a lot of respect for her for that as it takes a big person to do it, and I stand by that because it does. There aren't many that would see someone going 'ooo that gets right up my nose' and then put on a comment saying 'erm...actually that would be me then!' as most wouldn't have the kahoonas!! It took me by surprise because as I have said, it wasn't her that I was thinking of when I ranted, but if she feels that she has been doing it, then good for her for saying it, I say!

...and sorry to speak about people as though they are not there and in the third person 'she' and 'her' and all that...that's another bug bear of mine that I find very rude, so apologies Mira!

I mentioned no names, had no intention of ever doing so, and did not - indeed WOULD NOT - make the kind of comments people seem to have read into the original post. I was naffed off. I was having a wee rant, as we all do sometimes. What I didn't do was blatantly slag someone off as all these comments seem to think I did.

Judge me on what I actually say...not on what you think I might have said, because as you can see, there is a WHOLE WIDE WORLD of difference!!!

:mysmilie_12: I love you hun. :mysmilie_12: I thoroughly enjoy your input here and on the Rocks chatbox, whether it's your measured, thoughtful pieces or when you are exercising that zany sense of humour.

 

[sweetpea]

May I just add a note of support here for my friend PR,and also apologise for my ill considered post earlier in this thread.

I feel that an awful lot of assumptions have been made here tbh.

I have not been on chat as much as I used to be and jokingly asked a friend for gossip,goodness knows there are loads of people there who I do not know,but please,rest assured,I am not here for a witch hunt,neither is PR......it was more a Cissie and Ada 'breasts hoiked' chat over the garden fence type thing......just a bit of mindless banter!:mysmilie_34:

So if anyone has read into this something that was not there,I apologise......and may I also apologise to you PR as this has turned into something which it was never intended to be:mysmilie_81:

 

[Mirabelle]

May I just add this thread has been taken totaly off topic..

My descision has nothing to do with PR....we all have our liitle bug bears and rants... and PR was just having hers...I just replied to the thread...

It just seemed the right time to say ill keep quiet from now on if I've said or done things that are a bugbear or have annoyed anyone...

It was a last straw with a problem order and saturday's chat rudeness... that was aimed directly at me from a new nobody that thought they were somebody... no one had ever seen or heard of before and hope never to encounter them again... this is the reason and only reason behind my descision to just watch rocks....
But I want to say thank you to you all for the support you've shown me..

Now lets all get back to the real topic of this thread...


Mirabelle x

 

[Fruityloops]

May I just add this thread has been taken totaly off topic..

My descision has nothing to do with PR....we all have our liitle bug bears and rants... and PR was just having hers...I just replied to the thread...

It just seemed the right time to say ill keep quiet from now on if I've said or done things that are a bugbear or have annoyed anyone...

It was a last straw with a problem order and saturday's chat rudeness... that was aimed directly at me from a new nobody that thought they were somebody... no one had ever seen or heard of before and hope never to encounter them again... this is the reason and only reason behind my descision to just watch rocks....
But I want to say thank you to you all for the support you've shown me..

Now lets all get back to the real topic of this thread...


Mirabelle x

As the person who, seemingly, is the only one to have used the word stir, I assume PR's comment is aimed at me. My turn to set things straight:


It is the people Mira is talking about in the paragraph above who are the stirrers (i.e. the nobody who thought they were somebody), and not anyone who posts on this forum. Had I inferred anyone here was stirring I would have the balls to name names. I didn't because I wasn't referring to anyone here.

When I replied to Mirabelle it was only to Mirabelle in response to her words. She appeared upset and I wanted to reassure her that her input in the chatroom is valid and appreciated.

If it has been taken any other way by any other person then it shouldn't have been.

There. I'm going now. Everywhere I go seems to trigger a riot so now it's my turn to keep it zipped.

:mysmilie_11:

 

[briolette]

What i'm wondering is why bring this to a public forum at all? You were right not to name names, that would have been rude. But all that has happened now is an atmosphere of confusion and suspicion has been created. If something was bugging you that much why not share it privately with a chatroom friend to get it off your chest? To be honest, I found myself wondering if you meant me, not that I believe there is any reason for it , just that uncomfortable feeling of whispering going on and i'm sure i'm not the only person who has wondered who you and your friend have been gossiping about.
We are all Steve's customers, old and new, all invited to open days and invited to be in the rocks business, at this time of massive change for the company I am sure what they need from us all more than ever is to be a little more tolerant of each other, patient at the technical problems and loyal to the company i.e less criticism all round.
Chat can be fun and friendly but for new people it can be cliquey at times and off putting, I have found people to be great towards me, none more so than kind Mirabelle.

 

[Tabs]

Well, I hate to say this but it would appear the "original troll" in the chatroom, has probably gained what they set out to achieve...stirring up problems within our "Rocks community" and setting tongues wagging and fingers pointing and generally causing tension and an atmosphere! I'm sorry but that really saddens me, why can't we all simply enjoy our love of gems, jewellery and all things sparkly and have pleasant chats about our purchases?!

Mirabelle, you do a great job helping out...that includes "oldies(in the chat room) newbies" and anyone else who asks! We appreciate that hun and don't every change or consider leaving because the odd element don't like it!

PR...I for one know your humour and know you wouldn't be having a dig at Mirabelle for any reason. Your as mad as a box of frogs hun , we love ya don't ever change!

Ok, Sorry but had to say my piece! x

 

[tequila]

MIRA all i can say is yous better natter to me my girl LOL or i'm coming round to bash you up and you cant hit me back because i wear glasses dont let the odd one put you off there has been much too much back biting lately on respected chat ladies my mum always told me if you got nothing nice to say about a person then say nothing XXXXXX

 

[PrincessRacer]

Ok, there is only so many veiled insults a girl can take in a day. You want me to be frank and open - fine. Here it is.

1) Someone show me, with a quote, where I have said anything that is insulting or offensive about Mira that could be the cause of her decision.

2) Stop speaking about my rant as though I am a child in a playground. Do I really need to remind anyone about the thread a few months ago where everyone (me included) absolutely tore to pieces a member of Rocks chat for being a trader and making a ton of requests in the chat?? I would advise a re read, THEN tell me this forum isn't about getting things off your chest.

3) I have been with Rocks from the start, so I KNOW Mira has been with Rocks from the start. I am not stupid. Now lets think about this rationally. Unless I am a complete cow with an axe to grind (which I am not. Not today, anyway!), how could my original rant possibly be construed as being aimed at Mira? I have no idea why Mira chose to declare herself 'Guilty as charged' - indeed I wish I did - particularly when you consider the aforementioned together with her stating to another forum member shortly afterwards in this thread that she had, indeed, been here from the start. Maybe that is a question that only Mira can answer...I don't know. I think you will agree though that when you take all of this into consideration, there is simply NO WAY my comment could ever have been construed as being aimed at Mira.

4) The people I was speaking about know who they are. I am not causing suspicion or paranoia. It is quite simple. If you joined Rocks, say Xmas 08 but have been crowing to the newbies that you have been there since the start, then yes, I am talking about you. If you are the person who I witnessed in chat the other day declare that they had been with Rocks for almost 3 years (a hell of an achievement, I think you will agree!) then yes, I was talking about you. If you haven't said anything like that, then no, I am not talking about you. I am still not going to name names because public humiliation for the sake of proving I wasn't meaning Mira is even less my style than plain old public humiliation!

And with that I shall take my leave. It has been fun, but I can see from the majority of comments that my presence is no longer welcome, so have fun chaps and chapettes, and I will see you anon.

 

[amf]

PR, Please don't leave Rocks chat, i really enjoy reading your posts. Remember when you adoped Rok, you would keep us updated on his progress, it was hilarious.


Poster's need to re-read PR's post and you will see that Mira's name was never mentioned, it was only when Mira mentioned "Guilty as Charged" that this thread got nasty.

Please reconsider PR, i for one will really miss your posts.

amf

 

[argeybargey]

Like I said, public humiliation isn't my style, and I wouldn't have said anything on a public forum naming names EVER. Mira, you have my respect for standing up and saying you are one of the people that do it. It takes a big person to do that. :mysmilie_82:

...you are not the only person that does it, by the way!! :mysmilie_61:

I simply don't see the need to do it. You mention that you say it purely to reassure the new buyers, but surely whether you have been with Rocks for 18 or 8 months, it doesn't make a difference. The important thing is that you are a long term repeat customer??

PR - may I interject here as a friend of both and no axe to grind. I think it's this post (in response to Myra's apparent confession) that may be the cause of the upset. Bearing in mind that Myra will be feeling very sensitive after the rough ride she's had in Rocks chat recently, your response may not have read as intended. Human nature being what it is, your first words will have been imperfectly recalled by many of us and this second one where you say "Mira, you have my respect for standing up and saying you are one of the people that do it. It takes a big person to do that." :mysmilie_82: could easily have read as an acceptance of Myra's "confession" as an admission that she was indeed guilty. As I know to my own personal cost (you may recall my own stoning in the early days) language is a delicate thing and so often open to interpretation.

My own understanding of your posts was exactly as you meant in your opener, but I'll admit the second post (above) left me wondering if I was wrong, hence my own statement that I wasn't quite sure if I was getting it right.

I love Myra and I remember many a happy hour passed with you on the naughty step, so would hate to see either of you disappear into the sunset. Please both think again, accept this as a misunderstanding, and get back to the important business of ME, I needs yer both. xxxxxx

 

[Lucky Duck]

I hope you won't mind if I just add my two-penneth worth: as we all know, "web chat", like texting, is often difficult to interpret and, as a result, is often taken a way it was not intended. I am 100% positive that no harm or offence was intended by either party. Also, please remember that it is our individuality that makes us who we are and Rocks' chat is enriched because of it (blimey - that's a bit deep!!). )